Ok, let me start by saying, I am all for playing the Jesus Loves Me song in church as the kids come up for childrens time (or children's sermon, or young disciples or whatever your church calls it.) It has been done for years and I'm sure will be done for our little one's grandchildren in the future. But... I have to say the lyrics drive me a little nuts sometimes. I mean really. Have you listened to them?
Jesus Loves me this I know: Cool. I'm all for this. How could we not be.
For the Bible tells me so: Ok, now we have a problem. It's not that the Bible doesn't tell us that Jesus loves us, it most certainly does, but honestly, how many of you learned this fact because the Bible told you so? I know I didn't. I learned it from a loving Mother and Father who told me and showed so. I learned it from a number of different Sunday School teachers who told and showed me so. I learned it from my Grandmother who, just by being present in the same room shows and tells you that Jesus Christ loves you so much He gave His ALL for you. Then there were all those other people in all those churches I attended growing up. The Leisters, The Plums, The Runkels, Joe (The Rock Guy), The Emmanuels, The Hershbergers, Lynn Sifrit, Marva, and a hundred I am sorry I can't remember the names of at the moment.
So let's give some credit where credit is do. Yes, the Bible tell us so, in no uncertain terms. We don't deserve it, but we get it. Jesus does love us. But for me, that song has to go:
Jesus loves me this I know, for the Christians showed me so.
It's where we learn it first. It's most often where we are reminded of it. My wife reminds me often that we are the only Gospel some people will ever see. Have you made this song true for anyone today?
Shalom,
Tim
Tuesday, April 6, 2010
Friday, October 30, 2009
Becky's Choir Concert 10/27/09
This is not going to be my normal blog but rather just video of Becky's first concert Sophmore year. Mostly it's out here just so her Grandmother can see it.
Wednesday, October 21, 2009
A Manifesto! The Time Has Come!
It has been way too long since I wrote anything, but after reading this today, I felt I needed to post it here for those who read this blog to see. This is from John Shelby Spong and can be found elsewhere on the web as well.
A MANIFESTO! THE TIME HAS COME!
John Shelby Spong
Thursday October 15, 2009
I have made a decision. I will no longer debate the issue of homosexuality in the church with anyone. I will no longer engage the biblical ignorance that emanates from so many right-wing Christians about how the Bible condemns homosexuality, as if that point of view still has any credibility. I will no longer discuss with them or listen to them tell me how homosexuality is "an abomination to God," about how homosexuality is a "chosen lifestyle," or about how through prayer and "spiritual counseling" homosexual persons can be "cured." Those arguments are no longer worthy of my time or energy. I will no longer dignify by listening to the thoughts of those who advocate "reparative therapy," as if homosexual persons are somehow broken and need to be repaired. I will no longer talk to those who believe that the unity of the church can or should be achieved by rejecting the presence of, or at least at the expense of, gay and lesbian people. I will no longer take the time to refute the unlearned and undocumentable claims of certain world religious leaders who call homosexuality "deviant." I will no longer listen to that pious sentimentality that certain Christian leaders continue to employ, which suggests some version of that strange and overtly dishonest phrase that "we love the sinner but hate the sin." That statement is, I have concluded, nothing more than a self-serving lie designed to cover the fact that these people hate homosexual persons and fear homosexuality itself, but somehow know that hatred is incompatible with the Christ they claim to profess, so they adopt this face-saving and absolutely false statement. I will no longer temper my understanding of truth in order to pretend that I have even a tiny smidgen of respect for the appalling negativity that continues to emanate from religious circles where the church has for centuries conveniently perfumed its ongoing prejudices against blacks, Jews, women and homosexual persons with what it assumes is "high-sounding, pious rhetoric." The day for that mentality has quite simply come to an end for me. I will personally neither tolerate it nor listen to it any longer. The world has moved on, leaving these elements of the Christian Church that cannot adjust to new knowledge or a new consciousness lost in a sea of their own irrelevance. They no longer talk to anyone but themselves. I will no longer seek to slow down the witness to inclusiveness by pretending that there is some middle ground between prejudice and oppression. There isn't. Justice postponed is justice denied. That can be a resting place no longer for anyone. An old civil rights song proclaimed that the only choice awaiting those who cannot adjust to a new understanding was to "Roll on over or we'll roll on over you!" Time waits for no one.
I will particularly ignore those members of my own Episcopal Church who seek to break away from this body to form a "new church," claiming that this new and bigoted instrument alone now represents the Anglican Communion. Such a new ecclesiastical body is designed to allow these pathetic human beings, who are so deeply locked into a world that no longer exists, to form a community in which they can continue to hate gay people, distort gay people with their hopeless rhetoric and to be part of a religious fellowship in which they can continue to feel justified in their homophobic prejudices for the rest of their tortured lives. Church unity can never be a virtue that is preserved by allowing injustice, oppression and psychological tyranny to go unchallenged.
In my personal life, I will no longer listen to televised debates conducted by "fair-minded" channels that seek to give "both sides" of this issue "equal time." I am aware that these stations no longer give equal time to the advocates of treating women as if they are the property of men or to the advocates of reinstating either segregation or slavery, despite the fact that when these evil institutions were coming to an end the Bible was still being quoted frequently on each of these subjects. It is time for the media to announce that there are no longer two sides to the issue of full humanity for gay and lesbian people. There is no way that justice for homosexual people can be compromised any longer.
I will no longer act as if the Papal office is to be respected if the present occupant of that office is either not willing or not able to inform and educate himself on public issues on which he dares to speak with embarrassing ineptitude. I will no longer be respectful of the leadership of the Archbishop of Canterbury, who seems to believe that rude behavior, intolerance and even killing prejudice is somehow acceptable, so long as it comes from third-world religious leaders, who more than anything else reveal in themselves the price that colonial oppression has required of the minds and hearts of so many of our world's population. I see no way that ignorance and truth can be placed side by side, nor do I believe that evil is somehow less evil if the Bible is quoted to justify it. I will dismiss as unworthy of any more of my attention the wild, false and uninformed opinions of such would-be religious leaders as Pat Robertson, James Dobson, Jerry Falwell, Jimmy Swaggart, Albert Mohler, and Robert Duncan. My country and my church have both already spent too much time, energy and money trying to accommodate these backward points of view when they are no longer even tolerable.
I make these statements because it is time to move on. The battle is over. The victory has been won. There is no reasonable doubt as to what the final outcome of this struggle will be. Homosexual people will be accepted as equal, full human beings, who have a legitimate claim on every right that both church and society have to offer any of us. Homosexual marriages will become legal, recognized by the state and pronounced holy by the church. "Don't ask, don't tell" will be dismantled as the policy of our armed forces. We will and we must learn that equality of citizenship is not something that should ever be submitted to a referendum. Equality under and before the law is a solemn promise conveyed to all our citizens in the Constitution itself. Can any of us imagine having a public referendum on whether slavery should continue, whether segregation should be dismantled, whether voting privileges should be offered to women? The time has come for politicians to stop hiding behind unjust laws that they themselves helped to enact, and to abandon that convenient shield of demanding a vote on the rights of full citizenship because they do not understand the difference between a constitutional democracy, which this nation has, and a "mobocracy," which this nation rejected when it adopted its constitution. We do not put the civil rights of a minority to the vote of a plebiscite.
I will also no longer act as if I need a majority vote of some ecclesiastical body in order to bless, ordain, recognize and celebrate the lives and gifts of gay and lesbian people in the life of the church. No one should ever again be forced to submit the privilege of citizenship in this nation or membership in the Christian Church to the will of a majority vote.
The battle in both our culture and our church to rid our souls of this dying prejudice is finished. A new consciousness has arisen. A decision has quite clearly been made. Inequality for gay and lesbian people is no longer a debatable issue in either church or state. Therefore, I will from this moment on refuse to dignify the continued public expression of ignorant prejudice by engaging it. I do not tolerate racism or sexism any longer. From this moment on, I will no longer tolerate our culture's various forms of homophobia. I do not care who it is who articulates these attitudes or who tries to make them sound holy with religious jargon.
I have been part of this debate for years, but things do get settled and this issue is now settled for me. I do not debate any longer with members of the "Flat Earth Society" either. I do not debate with people who think we should treat epilepsy by casting demons out of the epileptic person; I do not waste time engaging those medical opinions that suggest that bleeding the patient might release the infection. I do not converse with people who think that Hurricane Katrina hit New Orleans as punishment for the sin of being the birthplace of Ellen DeGeneres or that the terrorists hit the United Sates on 9/11 because we tolerated homosexual people, abortions, feminism or the American Civil Liberties Union. I am tired of being embarrassed by so much of my church's participation in causes that are quite unworthy of the Christ I serve or the God whose mystery and wonder I appreciate more each day. Indeed I feel the Christian Church should not only apologize, but do public penance for the way we have treated people of color, women, adherents of other religions and those we designated heretics, as well as gay and lesbian people.
Life moves on. As the poet James Russell Lowell once put it more than a century ago: "New occasions teach new duties, Time makes ancient good uncouth." I am ready now to claim the victory. I will from now on assume it and live into it. I am unwilling to argue about it or to discuss it as if there are two equally valid, competing positions any longer. The day for that mentality has simply gone forever.
This is my manifesto and my creed. I proclaim it today. I invite others to join me in this public declaration. I believe that such a public outpouring will help cleanse both the church and this nation of its own distorting past. It will restore integrity and honor to both church and state. It will signal that a new day has dawned and we are ready not just to embrace it, but also to rejoice in it and to celebrate it.– John Shelby Spong
A MANIFESTO! THE TIME HAS COME!
John Shelby Spong
Thursday October 15, 2009
I have made a decision. I will no longer debate the issue of homosexuality in the church with anyone. I will no longer engage the biblical ignorance that emanates from so many right-wing Christians about how the Bible condemns homosexuality, as if that point of view still has any credibility. I will no longer discuss with them or listen to them tell me how homosexuality is "an abomination to God," about how homosexuality is a "chosen lifestyle," or about how through prayer and "spiritual counseling" homosexual persons can be "cured." Those arguments are no longer worthy of my time or energy. I will no longer dignify by listening to the thoughts of those who advocate "reparative therapy," as if homosexual persons are somehow broken and need to be repaired. I will no longer talk to those who believe that the unity of the church can or should be achieved by rejecting the presence of, or at least at the expense of, gay and lesbian people. I will no longer take the time to refute the unlearned and undocumentable claims of certain world religious leaders who call homosexuality "deviant." I will no longer listen to that pious sentimentality that certain Christian leaders continue to employ, which suggests some version of that strange and overtly dishonest phrase that "we love the sinner but hate the sin." That statement is, I have concluded, nothing more than a self-serving lie designed to cover the fact that these people hate homosexual persons and fear homosexuality itself, but somehow know that hatred is incompatible with the Christ they claim to profess, so they adopt this face-saving and absolutely false statement. I will no longer temper my understanding of truth in order to pretend that I have even a tiny smidgen of respect for the appalling negativity that continues to emanate from religious circles where the church has for centuries conveniently perfumed its ongoing prejudices against blacks, Jews, women and homosexual persons with what it assumes is "high-sounding, pious rhetoric." The day for that mentality has quite simply come to an end for me. I will personally neither tolerate it nor listen to it any longer. The world has moved on, leaving these elements of the Christian Church that cannot adjust to new knowledge or a new consciousness lost in a sea of their own irrelevance. They no longer talk to anyone but themselves. I will no longer seek to slow down the witness to inclusiveness by pretending that there is some middle ground between prejudice and oppression. There isn't. Justice postponed is justice denied. That can be a resting place no longer for anyone. An old civil rights song proclaimed that the only choice awaiting those who cannot adjust to a new understanding was to "Roll on over or we'll roll on over you!" Time waits for no one.
I will particularly ignore those members of my own Episcopal Church who seek to break away from this body to form a "new church," claiming that this new and bigoted instrument alone now represents the Anglican Communion. Such a new ecclesiastical body is designed to allow these pathetic human beings, who are so deeply locked into a world that no longer exists, to form a community in which they can continue to hate gay people, distort gay people with their hopeless rhetoric and to be part of a religious fellowship in which they can continue to feel justified in their homophobic prejudices for the rest of their tortured lives. Church unity can never be a virtue that is preserved by allowing injustice, oppression and psychological tyranny to go unchallenged.
In my personal life, I will no longer listen to televised debates conducted by "fair-minded" channels that seek to give "both sides" of this issue "equal time." I am aware that these stations no longer give equal time to the advocates of treating women as if they are the property of men or to the advocates of reinstating either segregation or slavery, despite the fact that when these evil institutions were coming to an end the Bible was still being quoted frequently on each of these subjects. It is time for the media to announce that there are no longer two sides to the issue of full humanity for gay and lesbian people. There is no way that justice for homosexual people can be compromised any longer.
I will no longer act as if the Papal office is to be respected if the present occupant of that office is either not willing or not able to inform and educate himself on public issues on which he dares to speak with embarrassing ineptitude. I will no longer be respectful of the leadership of the Archbishop of Canterbury, who seems to believe that rude behavior, intolerance and even killing prejudice is somehow acceptable, so long as it comes from third-world religious leaders, who more than anything else reveal in themselves the price that colonial oppression has required of the minds and hearts of so many of our world's population. I see no way that ignorance and truth can be placed side by side, nor do I believe that evil is somehow less evil if the Bible is quoted to justify it. I will dismiss as unworthy of any more of my attention the wild, false and uninformed opinions of such would-be religious leaders as Pat Robertson, James Dobson, Jerry Falwell, Jimmy Swaggart, Albert Mohler, and Robert Duncan. My country and my church have both already spent too much time, energy and money trying to accommodate these backward points of view when they are no longer even tolerable.
I make these statements because it is time to move on. The battle is over. The victory has been won. There is no reasonable doubt as to what the final outcome of this struggle will be. Homosexual people will be accepted as equal, full human beings, who have a legitimate claim on every right that both church and society have to offer any of us. Homosexual marriages will become legal, recognized by the state and pronounced holy by the church. "Don't ask, don't tell" will be dismantled as the policy of our armed forces. We will and we must learn that equality of citizenship is not something that should ever be submitted to a referendum. Equality under and before the law is a solemn promise conveyed to all our citizens in the Constitution itself. Can any of us imagine having a public referendum on whether slavery should continue, whether segregation should be dismantled, whether voting privileges should be offered to women? The time has come for politicians to stop hiding behind unjust laws that they themselves helped to enact, and to abandon that convenient shield of demanding a vote on the rights of full citizenship because they do not understand the difference between a constitutional democracy, which this nation has, and a "mobocracy," which this nation rejected when it adopted its constitution. We do not put the civil rights of a minority to the vote of a plebiscite.
I will also no longer act as if I need a majority vote of some ecclesiastical body in order to bless, ordain, recognize and celebrate the lives and gifts of gay and lesbian people in the life of the church. No one should ever again be forced to submit the privilege of citizenship in this nation or membership in the Christian Church to the will of a majority vote.
The battle in both our culture and our church to rid our souls of this dying prejudice is finished. A new consciousness has arisen. A decision has quite clearly been made. Inequality for gay and lesbian people is no longer a debatable issue in either church or state. Therefore, I will from this moment on refuse to dignify the continued public expression of ignorant prejudice by engaging it. I do not tolerate racism or sexism any longer. From this moment on, I will no longer tolerate our culture's various forms of homophobia. I do not care who it is who articulates these attitudes or who tries to make them sound holy with religious jargon.
I have been part of this debate for years, but things do get settled and this issue is now settled for me. I do not debate any longer with members of the "Flat Earth Society" either. I do not debate with people who think we should treat epilepsy by casting demons out of the epileptic person; I do not waste time engaging those medical opinions that suggest that bleeding the patient might release the infection. I do not converse with people who think that Hurricane Katrina hit New Orleans as punishment for the sin of being the birthplace of Ellen DeGeneres or that the terrorists hit the United Sates on 9/11 because we tolerated homosexual people, abortions, feminism or the American Civil Liberties Union. I am tired of being embarrassed by so much of my church's participation in causes that are quite unworthy of the Christ I serve or the God whose mystery and wonder I appreciate more each day. Indeed I feel the Christian Church should not only apologize, but do public penance for the way we have treated people of color, women, adherents of other religions and those we designated heretics, as well as gay and lesbian people.
Life moves on. As the poet James Russell Lowell once put it more than a century ago: "New occasions teach new duties, Time makes ancient good uncouth." I am ready now to claim the victory. I will from now on assume it and live into it. I am unwilling to argue about it or to discuss it as if there are two equally valid, competing positions any longer. The day for that mentality has simply gone forever.
This is my manifesto and my creed. I proclaim it today. I invite others to join me in this public declaration. I believe that such a public outpouring will help cleanse both the church and this nation of its own distorting past. It will restore integrity and honor to both church and state. It will signal that a new day has dawned and we are ready not just to embrace it, but also to rejoice in it and to celebrate it.– John Shelby Spong
Tuesday, April 21, 2009
Who is Jesus Christ for me today?
It's been way too long since I posted anything here and really I should be studying for a test right now but I felt like throwing something out here. And I know my blogs are usually about something with technology but not today. Today I want to think about who Jesus is for me. Today.
So who is Jesus Christ for me today? Because of the time of year, shortly after Easter, my first response to this question is that Jesus Christ is my savior and the reason I know I am forgiven for my sins and that I will live forever in God’s kingdom. Jesus did not just die and rise from the dead around 2000 years ago for my salvation. It is Christ today, as part of the Trinity, who continues to be my Savior. It is because of what He did that humans are able to receive the grace of God and that remains true today as it did when He died. Jesus died EVEN for me. He died and rose again for all of us and for that I thank God daily. In addition, I am blessed to be one of that “us” He died for. Me. He died even for someone like me, a sinner. I see Jesus as my savior and I believe I could not be forgiven my sins nor have a personal relationship with God without Him.
Next, Jesus is also a model for me. I believe that in blessing us by coming to be one of us, truly and fully human, God provided us a model that shows us what we can be, and in fact will be, if we accept the grace provided to us through Christ’s actions. Look at Augustine’s model of sin, which says that we were originally able not to sin, the fall happened and we came to a state of not being able not to sin, and through God's grace we will in His kingdom be in a state of not able to sin. Here is a picture:
Able not to sin ----> Fall -----> Not able not to sin -----> Grace -----> Not able to sin.
(Maybe I do a blog on Augustine and sin later)
I believe that Jesus Christ’s life shows us that, because of Christ’s actions and God’s grace, we can reach that state of not able to sin. I believe that Jesus Christ, being fully human, shows us that we can be perfectly sanctified, and I hope to model my life in that manner. However, as I learned from Dr. Chun in systematic theology, I cannot reach that place of not able to sin alone. That is something that all humanity must do together. But, being a person of faith I resolve and herein state, it must and will start with me. I can continue on the road toward that and try to live a life like Jesus Christ led in order to experience a kind of preview of what that life will be like in God's Kingdom.
I think that both of those statements go together and are combined in my belief that Jesus resurrection shows what will happen to us all. I also believe, although admittedly I am not well educated enough yet to make this argument on my own, that it does not matter whether that resurrection was physical or not. I believe that some theologians have made the point that the resurrection did in fact happen to the body of Jesus, but I am not convinced that it matters whether this was a physical event or something more like other theologians say in that it was Jesus Spirit that was resurected. I believe with all my heart that what we can say historically is that something dramatic happened that transformed Jesus’ disciples, that took these people who ran and hid when he was arrested and killed and CHANGED THEIR LIVES on that third day so that they came out of hiding, rejoicing and spreading the Word. And I believe that we can say that what happened to cause this transformation happened to Jesus. But exactly what that event was is somewhat open. For me, it does not matter because whatever happened to those disciples, it also happens to me and I know that Jesus Christ, the Son of God, is alive and helping me to learn to be more like him.
Shalom,
Tim
So who is Jesus Christ for me today? Because of the time of year, shortly after Easter, my first response to this question is that Jesus Christ is my savior and the reason I know I am forgiven for my sins and that I will live forever in God’s kingdom. Jesus did not just die and rise from the dead around 2000 years ago for my salvation. It is Christ today, as part of the Trinity, who continues to be my Savior. It is because of what He did that humans are able to receive the grace of God and that remains true today as it did when He died. Jesus died EVEN for me. He died and rose again for all of us and for that I thank God daily. In addition, I am blessed to be one of that “us” He died for. Me. He died even for someone like me, a sinner. I see Jesus as my savior and I believe I could not be forgiven my sins nor have a personal relationship with God without Him.
Next, Jesus is also a model for me. I believe that in blessing us by coming to be one of us, truly and fully human, God provided us a model that shows us what we can be, and in fact will be, if we accept the grace provided to us through Christ’s actions. Look at Augustine’s model of sin, which says that we were originally able not to sin, the fall happened and we came to a state of not being able not to sin, and through God's grace we will in His kingdom be in a state of not able to sin. Here is a picture:
Able not to sin ----> Fall -----> Not able not to sin -----> Grace -----> Not able to sin.
(Maybe I do a blog on Augustine and sin later)
I believe that Jesus Christ’s life shows us that, because of Christ’s actions and God’s grace, we can reach that state of not able to sin. I believe that Jesus Christ, being fully human, shows us that we can be perfectly sanctified, and I hope to model my life in that manner. However, as I learned from Dr. Chun in systematic theology, I cannot reach that place of not able to sin alone. That is something that all humanity must do together. But, being a person of faith I resolve and herein state, it must and will start with me. I can continue on the road toward that and try to live a life like Jesus Christ led in order to experience a kind of preview of what that life will be like in God's Kingdom.
I think that both of those statements go together and are combined in my belief that Jesus resurrection shows what will happen to us all. I also believe, although admittedly I am not well educated enough yet to make this argument on my own, that it does not matter whether that resurrection was physical or not. I believe that some theologians have made the point that the resurrection did in fact happen to the body of Jesus, but I am not convinced that it matters whether this was a physical event or something more like other theologians say in that it was Jesus Spirit that was resurected. I believe with all my heart that what we can say historically is that something dramatic happened that transformed Jesus’ disciples, that took these people who ran and hid when he was arrested and killed and CHANGED THEIR LIVES on that third day so that they came out of hiding, rejoicing and spreading the Word. And I believe that we can say that what happened to cause this transformation happened to Jesus. But exactly what that event was is somewhat open. For me, it does not matter because whatever happened to those disciples, it also happens to me and I know that Jesus Christ, the Son of God, is alive and helping me to learn to be more like him.
Shalom,
Tim
Saturday, January 31, 2009
Technically Serving - Online ministries.
As a computer geek turned seminarian, I hope to help educate the church in using technology for all forms of ministry. I'm not sure where all this will lead but I do know that I'm answering a call from God to full time, ordained ministry and that while serving in the pulpit I hope to be able to fulfill this mission.
I really got upset one night when I wanted to pray with someone and started searching for a forum online that might offer live people 24 x 7 to pray with you. You know, I couldn't find one. Well, that's not totally true. I did find two of them that would let me in to pray with them if I filled out a form with my name and email address. I didn't want to fill out forms. I just wanted someone to pray with! I really don't think that's too much to ask. So I hope that if I keep telling people this story, someone will take it upon themselves to start a prayer ministry online. One that just prays for and with people. That's all.
So that said, I want people to understand that there is SO much more we can do with this awesome communication tool we call the internet. We can do more than create websites that are nothing but electronic newsletters. We can do more than just do one-way communication that the church is so use to. We now have a tool to truly communicate with those who need to be ministered to. We don't just have to preach, we can listen too. We can make church and christianity about two-way communication and really be in communion with each other and the world.
We don't have to solve everything at once but we should at least start! How about a simple ad on Facebook that says something like "Need Prayer?" or "Missing something?" that when clicked on takes a person to a live forum chat room that is staffed all the time with someone willing to prayer and share God's word? It doesn't have to be a pulpit, just a place to serve those with a need. It sounds so simple, and yet it's still not there. Anyone know where to host it? I bet the volunteers will come if we just have a place to start it.
Done for now... Hope God's graces are abundently obvious to you today.
In Christ,
Tim
I really got upset one night when I wanted to pray with someone and started searching for a forum online that might offer live people 24 x 7 to pray with you. You know, I couldn't find one. Well, that's not totally true. I did find two of them that would let me in to pray with them if I filled out a form with my name and email address. I didn't want to fill out forms. I just wanted someone to pray with! I really don't think that's too much to ask. So I hope that if I keep telling people this story, someone will take it upon themselves to start a prayer ministry online. One that just prays for and with people. That's all.
So that said, I want people to understand that there is SO much more we can do with this awesome communication tool we call the internet. We can do more than create websites that are nothing but electronic newsletters. We can do more than just do one-way communication that the church is so use to. We now have a tool to truly communicate with those who need to be ministered to. We don't just have to preach, we can listen too. We can make church and christianity about two-way communication and really be in communion with each other and the world.
We don't have to solve everything at once but we should at least start! How about a simple ad on Facebook that says something like "Need Prayer?" or "Missing something?" that when clicked on takes a person to a live forum chat room that is staffed all the time with someone willing to prayer and share God's word? It doesn't have to be a pulpit, just a place to serve those with a need. It sounds so simple, and yet it's still not there. Anyone know where to host it? I bet the volunteers will come if we just have a place to start it.
Done for now... Hope God's graces are abundently obvious to you today.
In Christ,
Tim
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